What Did You Hate Most About Transformers ROTF *spoilers*

[smjenkins77]

I really would have started a poll for this... but honestly, there was just so many things...

Skids & Mudflap... not quite Jar Jar Binks, but very nearly. It helps if the comic relief is actually funny.

The incredible disappearing Bumblebee... "I could have sworn he was with Sam's team, but I haven't seen him for 20 minutes."

Jetfire... oh dear, where do you start. I'm not sure where he came from, that accent was seriously all over the place.

The whole Shia & Megan Fox thing... they've been together 2 years and never said that they loved each other, huh?

Megatron not being in charge... I mean wtf?

The movie peaked with the forest battle... The desert scene was overdrawn and muddled. I just wanted it to end.

Soundwave... His inclusion was complete fan service. Spent the film in orbit getting jiggy with a satellite. If you going to include Soundwave, at least give him more to do.

Annoying little robots that weren't funny... stand up Doctor... Wheelie... Sam's kitchen.

Sam's mother... yeah, the whole college scene did nothing for me.

Autobots criminally ignored... introduces Sideswipe who slices a decepticon in half, then forgets all about him. We never really see how the Autobots feel about Prime's death. Even Bumblebee who is with Sam never really reacts, although he reacts plenty to Sam's death.

Sam in Autobot heaven... don't get me started... Harry Potter has a lot to answer for.


I'm sure plenty will disagree with me, and i'm sure there are many more hates for the list.

[Apathetic_Ninja]

Wait. You already saw it?

[Sycoo]

omg delete this thread please because im gonna end up bored before wensday and reading this.

[thelazman]

Skipping it. the first movie was below average, and I assume the sequel will be more of the same. Transformers the movie animated was much better.

[litepink]

released in europe already?

[Apathetic_Ninja]

Transformers 1 was dumb, but incredibly fun in my opinion. I'll be seeing it Wednesday night. I think the only Bay film I absolutely hated was Pearl Harbor. Everything else is just a dumb fun time.

You can't deny he knows how to blow stuff up!

[smjenkins77]

Not the responses I thought i'd get... didn't know it wasn't out in the US yet, been out since last Wed/Thurs over here.

[monstr.squad]

I don't understand how anybody could think the 1st Transformers is a bad movie.

[chris.o.saur]

i definately wasn't a fan of the first movie......can we say disneyland?

[obi-mugg kenobi]

i hate the way they look.

the designs for the transformers are terrible. they looked more like aliens than robots.

the first movie could have been a lot better. the script was weak to me. i don't think the writers even cared to follow most of the origin of the transformers. but that's how it always is.

[Itz_Mighty]

Can anyone tell me how Soundwave sounds in the movie? I'm really curious and hope it's close to the cartoon.

[smjenkins77]

Soundwave sounds pretty similiar to the cartoon but without the robot voice filtering... more like a less hoarse Dr Claw from Inspector Gadget, I believe they had the same voice actor?

[Itz_Mighty]

Soundwave sounds pretty similiar to the cartoon but without the robot voice filtering... more like a less hoarse Dr Claw from Inspector Gadget, I believe they had the same voice actor?

Yep, Mr. Frank Welker voiced both characters. Now that's lame that there's less (or none) of that voice filter. That's what made the Soundwave stand out from the other Transformers.

[atgscl]

...Sam dies and goes to "autobot heaven"??? WTF?

[flashtestmanalive]

Soundwave sounds pretty similiar to the cartoon but without the robot voice filtering... more like a less hoarse Dr Claw from Inspector Gadget, I believe they had the same voice actor?

nah, go back and watch the cartoon, sounds nothing like soundwave. I have his voice pretty recent in my mind after watching season 1 again and just seeing the movie. Might be the same guy but didn't sound like soundwave from the cartoon.

[monstr.squad]

i hate the way they look.

the designs for the transformers are terrible. they looked more like aliens than robots.

the first movie could have been a lot better. the script was weak to me. i don't think the writers even cared to follow most of the origin of the transformers. but that's how it always is.


uhhh... they are aliens. and robots. haha.

[CNorris]

I liked it but my biggest gripe was ironhide, sideswipe, ratchet were hardly in the movie. Arcee sucked, mudflap and skids weren't that bad, but I would have prefered other autobots (hound, trailbreaker, cliff jumper). It was an optimus and bumble bee love fest. Love those two but I need more autobots. Plus the constructicons didn't turn into individual robots. Still good and the first movie was better. I can't believe some ppl didn't like the first one, but I guess you can't please all.

[deadpool]

rotf humor was overrated they tried to squeeze those awful jokes that didnt even made sense.. and this movie lacked good plot.. i like tf1 more coz the plot is clear but with rotf it was a mess..

[Nutt Mugg]

They were in a hurry. There's a scene where the twins are in front of a pyramid and it looked like the graphics off of a C-movie on sci-fi channel. The movie dragged ass for two hours and then tried to cram everything in the last 30. There was no explanation for the Fallen at all except a little in the beginning. They needed to show Meghan Fox naked to save this movie, enough said, lol.

Then there was the racial profiling which ironically, I found hilarious. You have two autobots that talk like they are from LBC, they cannot get along no matter what, and they cannot read (you did see that part, right?).....who were the writers slamming against?

Even though the fight in the forrest was awesome, it didn't make sense. The first movie showed the autobots barely being able to hold off the decepticons and Optimus getting his ass handed to him by Megatron till Sam shoves the all-spark into Megatron. In the forrest on TF2, you have Optimus taking on most of the big players for the decepticons alone, which started to remind me of 300 for some reason, lol....hmmmmm.....odds and fight cinematics? Anyone?

Jetfire was decent for comic relief. Bumblebee blowing up Sam's mom and dad's house was pretty funny. Skids/Mudflap were the closest to an autobot version of Jar-Jar I can think of and the leg-humping extravaganza was unnecessary....one time in a movie is fine.....the RC-truck humping Meghan Fox, understandable (wear a rubber though cause Brian Austin Greene has been all over the place from what I hear, lol).

All in all, the movie was alright. With the understanding that the series was just dumb fun and endless money thrown at special effects.

[shinji669]

Could have been a lot worse. I went into it expecting nothing better then the 80's cartoon movie. (Be honest when you go back and watch it, it really was awful.) Going in with no expectations made it a very enjoyable movie for me. "The Fallen" didn't bother me that much since Megatron bitches out in the original animated movie as soon as someone stronger then him comes around so it was not a stretch for his character.

And let's be honest folks how much can you expect, it is a movie based off a cartoon that is based off a toy. If they started up a Mighty Muggs hour we as adults would think it was awful but our kids would love it and someday would think it was the best cartoon of their childhood. Go back and really watch some of the shows we though were great... Thundercats, Transformers, Voltron... all great in our head now but truly not very plot heavy.

[loco517]

ok i loved this movie it was entertaining but alot of questions and comments i have...

SPOILERS!

1. Wheelie wasnt orange! i loved how the made him like joe peschi and with te leg humping but wtf? why not his actual color?

2. Rc had about two words to say so did alot of the other autobots

3. plot was all over the place. it was like PLOTHOLE....ummmm EXplosion

4. Megatron yells at starscream for not being the leader, then megatron goes and kisses the fallens ass?

5.The fight with devastator was awesome.....wait what fight?

6. the end figt was sick...but it was way too short.

7.ok if there was a piec of the all spark left....why didnt they use it to revive prime?!

8. your last living ancestor is dead....nvm that lets revive the kid!

9. The college scene was hilarious

10. megan fox is hot

ok i can name alot more stuff but now im just tearing into just my 2cents

[RoseRed]

This movie is terrible.
It has several plotlines that don't go anywhere
1. The Pretender. What happened to her? She just stopped chasing them after being hit by a car? Why did they even bother with that whole bit?

2. The guy who wanted the Autobots to leave the Earth. He kept turning up and gasbagging then gets pushed from a plane. End of his plotline just like that. No relevance.

3. The Fallen. The movie was named for him. He shows up and gets killed the second he lands on the ground. End of movie even though he's poweful enough to repel/attract gravity? Whaaaaaattttt? Weak.

4. Continuity was messed up and all over the place. There's one scene where Sam and friends jump into Bumblebee and then two seconds later they are running along beside him and Sam says "Go, get in Bumblebee." My man and me both said "Wo, see that?" at the same time.

5. The roommate. Useless and unnecessary to the plot.

6. Not a transformer movie, more a big-robot-lots-of-Kablooie movie. They should have made a more G1 focussed movie instead of a sell-more-new-toys movie. I'm going to go see it again because it really confused the willies out of me the first time.

7. Why do all the Primes look identical and optimus' protoform looked nothing like that in the first movie?

8. If the Decepticons have this advanced weaponry how come Starscream can't hit four cars traveling two abreast with at least twelve rockets. No heat seakers on Seibertron? Only drunk missiles that blow straight up like pyrotechnics.

9. Why are there so many clone autobots and decepticons? Not very good disquises. And the Constructicon with the eight foot decepticon logo was a perfect Earth disquise, no one would say "There's a decepticon, right there!":D

:dance:The 80s cartoon movie is the absolute MIND BOMB. You obviously don't have THE TOUCH!:dance:

[smjenkins77]

There was a scene when Devastator ate either Hurp or Durp, and some guy down the front of the theatre shouted "Hooray!", everybody in the cinema laughed at that. The "comedy" in the movie? erh... not so much.

[Itz_Mighty]

1. The Pretender. What happened to her? She just stopped chasing them after being hit by a car? Why did they even bother with that whole bit?"

I think she got killed after being sandwiched between the car and the metal pool.

Besides that, Transformers 2 is a bad movie but I think most people wanted to see stuff explode and Autobot battles so I guess it did it's job of entertaining some people.

[RoseRed]

1. The Pretender. What happened to her? She just stopped chasing them after being hit by a car? Why did they even bother with that whole bit?"

I think she got killed after being sandwiched between the car and the metal pool.

Besides that, Transformers 2 is a bad movie but I think most people wanted to see stuff explode and Autobot battles so I guess it did it's job of entertaining some people.

It's good when advanced alien robots who can't be killed in the first movie because of their regenerative metal parts can be killed by a trashy earth car in the second.:D

[Cyberscream]

I actually enjoyed the movie from beginning to end. One or two minor parts could have been cut, but that's it (including that certain scene with Sam's mom at the college :D).

[Nova]

you guys over analyze this too much. its a movie. its suppose to be fun. its entertaining.

just dont mind all of the stuff that doesnt make sense.

[RoseRed]

you guys over analyze this too much. its a movie. its suppose to be fun. its entertaining.

just dont mind all of the stuff that doesnt make sense.

All 3 hrs of it?:D

[Cyberscream]

you guys over analyze this too much. its a movie. its suppose to be fun. its entertaining.

just dont mind all of the stuff that doesnt make sense.
This ^

Apparently the days of going to the movies to escape the limits of life are over. All people do now is nitpick at them as if they were real events. Does it occur to anyone that it is science FICTION? I mean, every movie that is made has it's pros and cons. Shouldn't the amazing effects and action blow away the minor cons for this? Perhaps people just dislike the concept, director, or plain down have a negative opinion before a positive one.

:)

[Itz_Mighty]

Robots

[king of the internet]

you guys over analyze this too much. its a movie. its suppose to be fun. its entertaining.

it's a shame it was neither.

[B.A.L.D]

I really would have started a poll for this... but honestly, there was just so many things...

Skids & Mudflap... not quite Jar Jar Binks, but very nearly. It helps if the comic relief is actually funny.

The incredible disappearing Bumblebee... "I could have sworn he was with Sam's team, but I haven't seen him for 20 minutes."

Jetfire... oh dear, where do you start. I'm not sure where he came from, that accent was seriously all over the place.

The whole Shia & Megan Fox thing... they've been together 2 years and never said that they loved each other, huh?

Megatron not being in charge... I mean wtf?

The movie peaked with the forest battle... The desert scene was overdrawn and muddled. I just wanted it to end.

Soundwave... His inclusion was complete fan service. Spent the film in orbit getting jiggy with a satellite. If you going to include Soundwave, at least give him more to do.

Annoying little robots that weren't funny... stand up Doctor... Wheelie... Sam's kitchen.

Sam's mother... yeah, the whole college scene did nothing for me.

Autobots criminally ignored... introduces Sideswipe who slices a decepticon in half, then forgets all about him. We never really see how the Autobots feel about Prime's death. Even Bumblebee who is with Sam never really reacts, although he reacts plenty to Sam's death.

Sam in Autobot heaven... don't get me started... Harry Potter has a lot to answer for.


I'm sure plenty will disagree with me, and I'm sure there are many more hates for the list.

kind of late seeing it, wow smjenkins you nailed every point of mine.

the wife liked it, but she enjoys mindless entertainment, i hated most of it...poor Autobots deserved much better.

:censored:Micheal Bay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Hurmm]

1. That I paid American money to have time from my life taken from me and can never recover either the time or the money both of which could have been better spent, the money on beer for the homeless and the time watching paint dry. May everyone associated with this film contract a temporary skin rash. :mad:

[Hurmm]

The last ten minutes was a COMPLETE recruitment video for the US ARMED forces, I AM an Army Vet but what was that about?

[smjenkins77]

Apparently the days of going to the movies to escape the limits of life are over. All people do now is nitpick at them as if they were real events. Does it occur to anyone that it is science FICTION? I mean, every movie that is made has it's pros and cons. Shouldn't the amazing effects and action blow away the minor cons for this? Perhaps people just dislike the concept, director, or plain down have a negative opinion before a positive one.

:)

It was supposed to be fun, it was supposed to be entertaining. However, it wasn't.


This may come as a shock to you, but people expressing their dislike of a bad movie isn't a new thing ;)
Going to the movies is a real event. They even market movie releases as "the event of the summer" and so on. If you just wanted a silly romp you could rent one of those low budget sci-fi channel productions.

Transformers is science fiction. However, it is also badly written and badly executed science fiction. This movie doesn't just have minor cons... it has major structural and pacing issues. It is a massive, bloated beast of a film balancing itself on the flimsiest of plots.

[flashtestmanalive]

It is a massive, bloated beast of a film balancing itself on the flimsiest of plots.

aaand, the cartoon wasn't? Wasn't it originally a vehicle to sell toys? What makes that so different?

Everyone who seems to still be fond of the old Transformers we grew up with don't seem to recall that that show had the worst plots ever, same thing every episode: Megatron tries to steal energy for blah blah blah. Lame. I think you are all focusing on the good stuff you remember about the old toons... go back and watch them now.

I will agree that they are awesome still, awesomely bad.

[Pumpkin King]

I hate the fact that they "transform"

There, I said it.

:)

[flashtestmanalive]

I hate the fact that they "transform"

There, I said it.

:)

oh god that was the worst part :)

[monstr.squad]

everybody nowadays just think that they're movie critics. i tend to like/love most of the movies that i see. it is what it is people, get over it.

[smjenkins77]

aaand, the cartoon wasn't? Wasn't it originally a vehicle to sell toys? What makes that so different?

Everyone who seems to still be fond of the old Transformers we grew up with don't seem to recall that that show had the worst plots ever, same thing every episode: Megatron tries to steal energy for blah blah blah. Lame. I think you are all focusing on the good stuff you remember about the old toons... go back and watch them now.

I will agree that they are awesome still, awesomely bad.

I'm not comparing the movie to the cartoon. The cartoon, like many of its time, only stands up today as a piece of nostalgia. I'm judging the movie based on its own (lack of) merits.


everybody nowadays just think that they're movie critics. i tend to like/love most of the movies that i see. it is what it is people, get over it.

Discussion/debate is the spice of life, etc... there really is nothing to get over. Flash and I disagree over this movie, doesn't mean I like him any less. It's good to air your views and (only occasionally, not too often ;) ) get them shot down.

[flashtestmanalive]

Discussion/debate is the spice of life, etc... there really is nothing to get over. Flash and I disagree over this movie, doesn't mean I like him any less. It's good to air your views and (only occasionally, not too often ;) ) get them shot down.

see, I like the way you look at things. people these days can't have a simple discussion about anything without taking offense as if the other person were attacking their own personal beliefs and values. I like point, counter-point discussions and nothing more. it's always good to hear what other people think but it's also fun to razz people from time to time :)

[RoseRed]

I've been watching movies for over 30 years, that's longer than most paid movie critics. Trust me, I know good giant battling robots from bad.
Next you'll say Evangalion is the best giant robot show ever and not THE most repetitious noxious, samey, samey robot designs and battles beh vomit oh no my new dress.:toilet:
G1 is STILL a great cartoon everything afterwards gives me a huge headache. Sure it was a springboard to sell toys. Its STILL selling toys you nong!:dance:

[flashtestmanalive]

haha if you look at things from a realistic point of view like everyone seems to be when they review ROTF, you've got some serious comparative issues.

[Itz_Mighty]

I realize something about what could have made a scene more better.

That part where ***spoiler*** Sam goes to Autobot "heaven" and meets those Robots would have made a lot more sense (or better placed in the movie) IF it were at the Temple scene where he touches that thing that Disintegrates. He could have touch that thing and get a vision (autobot Heaven) instead of nearly dying and meeting those Robots in some spiritual world.

Just saying ya know.

[12OunceEpilogue]

-Didn't read the rest of the responses in this thread.

-Didn't enjoy the movie.

-More stupid than fun this go around.

-Nothing iconic like a couple of scenes in the first one. Meh -.

[RoseRed]

haha if you look at things from a realistic point of view like everyone seems to be when they review ROTF, you've got some serious comparative issues.

From a "REALISTIC POINT OF VIEW" I could accept a crystaline race, a techno-organic race, a geothermal and a liquid based alien race since these have all been theorised by scientists as theoretically possible but not a race of transforming giant metal robots that talk in racial stereotypes and know human kung-fu. Haaaiiii Ya.:D

[smjenkins77]

Well there is the concept of "suspension of disbelief", where an audience kind of enters an agreement with the movie to take things like space aliens and/or characters that are bullet-proof as fact. The condition being, that the agreement isn't abused too much. Transformers RotF rapes that agreement while laughing in your face.

[Itz_Mighty]

From a "REALISTIC POINT OF VIEW" I could accept a crystaline race, a techno-organic race, a geothermal and a liquid based alien race since these have all been theorised by scientists as theoretically possible but not a race of transforming giant metal robots that talk in racial stereotypes and know human kung-fu. Haaaiiii Ya.:D

"I like the way you think, Mr. Cone."

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[big rob dubya]

When I first saw it i liked the movie. But then, I thought about it, I couldn't remember what it was that I liked about the movie. I get the whole thing that it's robots blowing up stuff and destroying each other, but there really wasn't much to the movie. I think that's why they threw in Shia as the main character. To have someone to revolve a story around. Because without that it's a bunch of special effects. And the movie is visually stunning. But that's about all I liked about Transformers. It just didn't do it for me.

I don't hate the movie, but I don't like it.

[Nutt Mugg]

I was content with the movie, mainly because I didn't pay for it, lol. I had a free movie ticket from work and was killing time a couple weeks ago. I was disappointed at so many things. The forrest fight made the movie look promising, but it was all downhill from there. The visuals were very choppy, a two year old could tell you what was computer animated on it. The "I love you" thing was ridiculous, Sam was pretty much begging to tell her he loved her in the first movie and after two years, he's too cool for her? If he don't wanna tell her he loves her I will, muahaha! Skidz and Mudflap were a testiment to racial profiling. The dogs humping scene? What was it, three times it showed them going at it? The Jetfire/Optimus upgrade was kinda neat, except as soon as he was done, he peels it all off like he doesn't know he'll need it in the next sequel! The opening Hong Kong scene and the forrest brawl were the only two cool things to me, but the forrest thing doesn't really make sense because of how hard of a battle it was at the end of the first Transformers, then out of nowhere, Optimus can take out most of the decepticons alone? Eh, it wasn't a classic, but if you walk in there with no expectations, you'll probably be okay.

[flashtestmanalive]

I was content with the movie, mainly because I didn't pay for it, lol. I had a free movie ticket from work and was killing time a couple weeks ago. I was disappointed at so many things. The forrest fight made the movie look promising, but it was all downhill from there. The visuals were very choppy, a two year old could tell you what was computer animated on it. The "I love you" thing was ridiculous, Sam was pretty much begging to tell her he loved her in the first movie and after two years, he's too cool for her? If he don't wanna tell her he loves her I will, muahaha! Skidz and Mudflap were a testiment to racial profiling. The dogs humping scene? What was it, three times it showed them going at it? The Jetfire/Optimus upgrade was kinda neat, except as soon as he was done, he peels it all off like he doesn't know he'll need it in the next sequel! The opening Hong Kong scene and the forrest brawl were the only two cool things to me, but the forrest thing doesn't really make sense because of how hard of a battle it was at the end of the first Transformers, then out of nowhere, Optimus can take out most of the decepticons alone? Eh, it wasn't a classic, but if you walk in there with no expectations, you'll probably be okay.

obviously it was easier to fight in the forest because Optimus went Super Saiyan. ;)

[Nutt Mugg]

Super Saiyan Optimus, lol! Gotta give him some crazy blonde hair! I have to say too though, the robot chick with the eight foot tongue scared AND excited me at the same time!

[big rob dubya]

oh yea, like Nutt Mugg was saying, they had a lot of immature shtuff in the movie. for no reason. the dogs humping. the transformer's nut sack. there was a scene with that right? and that other guy that was working at the butcher shop had a lame "toilet humor" style scene, too, if I remember. And pretty much agree with every thing nuttmugg said in his post.

I'd give this movie a 6/10

[flashtestmanalive]

I'd give it a lower rating for all these immature things if it wasn't for:

1. giant robots
2. giant robots punching each other
3. giant robots punching each other in egypt
4. giant robots 'splodin' stuff
5. giant robots with Peter Cullen's voice

[SidtheKid]

haha. Yeah that stupid robot girl runied it for me, But come on the action was flippin schweet, I like the super saiyin optomus! He was hardcore in that movie, thank god cause he was a flippin girl in the first one!

Sid

[Itz_Mighty]

One of my favorite comments online about Skids is "Why does a robot need a gold tooth?"

LOL!!

Um, I don't know either.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f3/300px-ROTF_Skids_promo.jpg